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| For those who intend to homeschool. Would you homeschool if it became illegal and there was no private school option? |
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Renee
22, Pennsylvania
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| Lock wrote: | | Heather Belle OFC wrote: | | I would homeschool as long as it was possible to homeschool. In other words, if by homeschooling I would lose my children then I'd probably stop homeschooling. But if it was at all possible to continue it "underground" I would. That's what many homeschoolers did in the early days before it became legal in all 50 states. |
The problem with this would be accreditation. A home school education wouldn't be worth much if it couldn't be recognized by employers or universities as a legitimate education. |
Worth much in their eyes, maybe...but that doesn't mean a homeschool education that isn't accredited by an employer wouldn't be worth much. Perspective comes into play here.
And hopefully any employer would be smart enough to look at a person's credentials and integrity before making a major judgement call. He might have just passed up the future President. 
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Joe Coupal
22, Colorado
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 09 10:41 pm |
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Any loss of children is a temporary loss, provided you are willing to do anything necessary to oppose a corrupt system. The government is put in place by God, if they take children from responsible parents they are opposing God's will and a just war of opposition would be the Godly response to such pretenders at power.
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JMark
22, USAFA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 09 3:23 pm |
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| Renee wrote: | | Lock wrote: | | Heather Belle OFC wrote: | | I would homeschool as long as it was possible to homeschool. In other words, if by homeschooling I would lose my children then I'd probably stop homeschooling. But if it was at all possible to continue it "underground" I would. That's what many homeschoolers did in the early days before it became legal in all 50 states. |
The problem with this would be accreditation. A home school education wouldn't be worth much if it couldn't be recognized by employers or universities as a legitimate education. |
Worth much in their eyes, maybe...but that doesn't mean a homeschool education that isn't accredited by an employer wouldn't be worth much. Perspective comes into play here.
And hopefully any employer would be smart enough to look at a person's credentials and integrity before making a major judgement call. He might have just passed up the future President. |
Unfortunately it doesn't generally work this way. The employer has an interview and a file on which he can base his decisions. He doesn't have a month to get to know the hiree. Therefore, a respected and recognized education combined with interview skills are necessary to get a job.
| Joe Coupal wrote: | | ...and a just war of opposition would be the Godly response to such pretenders at power. |
This statement is troubling for a number of reasons.
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Jennie
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 09 5:01 pm |
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WOW. I was surprised when I entered NO and found out that 80% of you answered YES. I know this is HomeschoolAlumni and all, but still.
The practical side:
For one thing, it would be very hard to homeschool illegally. The government would find out if the kids were not showing up in school right away, and then my kids would be taken away.
The political side:
Obviously, such a government would be tyrannical, forcing parents to ONLY public school their children, even going so far as to remove any private school option. In response to this, I would start petitions, protest and write letters and editorials.
The moral side:
My children's education would be very important to me, but I have to say, not as important as keeping them with me and training them up for the Lord. So, I would try my best to prepare them for public school and cover them in prayer.
As much as y'all like homeschooling, there are Christians who survive public school with their faith intact. While it's not a great environment, I would send my children over breaking the law and having them separated from me. It's not like the government would be telling us that we have to forsake Christ or anything.
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Marlana
24, Chiang Mai, Thailand
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 09 5:32 pm |
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the day is coming:
http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={7CC3532A-D849-4149-AFE9-816A5F588281}
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Danae Ashley
24, Lynchburg, VA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 09 5:44 pm |
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| Jennie wrote: | WOW. I was surprised when I entered NO and found out that 80% of you answered YES. I know this is HomeschoolAlumni and all, but still.
The practical side:
For one thing, it would be very hard to homeschool illegally. The government would find out if the kids were not showing up in school right away, and then my kids would be taken away. |
Actually, only a matter of years ago, homeschooling was illegal in Michigan. I was not living here at the time -- but I know many people here who were doing it when it was illegal.
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Drew Boon (WBE)
23, Whitesburg, GA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 09 8:55 am |
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The thought of sending my kids to a public school is disgusting. I would definitely leave the country, and even endure city life, if homeschooling became illegal and I had school-age children.
Of course, the first thing I'd try is starting a private school with some other homeschoolers that would act as an umbrella over us, but allow us plenty of freedom to make curriculum choices. But if that's not an option, I'd leave.
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Marlana
24, Chiang Mai, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 09 10:14 am |
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| Jennie wrote: | WOW. I was surprised when I entered NO and found out that 80% of you answered YES. I know this is HomeschoolAlumni and all, but still.
The practical side:
For one thing, it would be very hard to homeschool illegally. The government would find out if the kids were not showing up in school right away, and then my kids would be taken away.
The political side:
Obviously, such a government would be tyrannical, forcing parents to ONLY public school their children, even going so far as to remove any private school option. In response to this, I would start petitions, protest and write letters and editorials.
The moral side:
My children's education would be very important to me, but I have to say, not as important as keeping them with me and training them up for the Lord. So, I would try my best to prepare them for public school and cover them in prayer.
As much as y'all like homeschooling, there are Christians who survive public school with their faith intact. While it's not a great environment, I would send my children over breaking the law and having them separated from me. It's not like the government would be telling us that we have to forsake Christ or anything. |
If you were told "if you won't allow us to beat your kids all day, we will take them away," would you still send them because you can undo the emotional lies in the evenings?
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Jennie
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 09 3:39 pm |
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| Marlana wrote: | | If you were told "if you won't allow us to beat your kids all day, we will take them away," would you still send them because you can undo the emotional lies in the evenings? |
I don't really understand what you mean by this...first off, someone beating my children is a very disturbing thought but...emotional lies? I would be more afraid of my children's physical safety if someone was going to beat them in the first place. That's something that can never be undone. It's not like I would ever be able to undo the physical injury or emotional trauma in the evenings anyway...so I really don't get what you mean by this. Please try to clarify.
Oh, and by the way, I'm not saying anything against all of you who voted YES. I'm just saying that in light of the severe consequences of breaking the law, I was surprised with how many of you would be willing to risk homeschooling illegally.
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Marlana
24, Chiang Mai, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 09 8:03 pm |
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Okay, I understand you there. 
But here's what I'm saying: public education is traumatizing. I took ONE class in high school (lol I'm the type that always wants to find out for myself). I was surprised I was alive at the end.
I had people who stalked me around. Boys and Girls had sex on the stairs. People were constantly fighting in the hallway. And I failed over half my tests (twice I miss filled in the dots on the scantron) and still had the highest grade in the class.
This is also what I meant: physical abuse develops emotional lies. "I am unwanted," for example.
Schooling also develops emotional lies. I grew up believing I was dumb because my kindergarten teacher (I was homeschooled after that year) said, "She can't read; she's got learning problems."
School also develops lies of the world. I have watched the little girls I used to babysit. They used to be content kids; now they just want more and more. They used to connect to family; now they are withdrawn. They used to want to go to church; now they won't go to AWANA unless their forced, and they won't memorize a verse.
School also develops moral lies. Everyday kids sit at their test next to peers who have two mommies or two daddies; they see girls that are now boys. They are taught, "Be tolerant of these people."
Now, you say, that's not everyone. True, some people aren't as harmed as others. But what would I really be demonstrating to my kids when at the end of the day I have to say, "Now you learned this and this at school. All this isn't true. You have to stand up for Christ" --- and yet I'm not willing to demonstrate what it means to stand up to the anti-Christ's of the system?
Anyway, that's why I would go underground.
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danae
22, Washington
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 09 8:19 pm |
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^All public schools are not like that. At least not that extreme.
But on another note, I was thinking about stories I've read about Christians who lived under communism - my family was reading a book about a family in Russia. Homeschooling didn't really happen then, at least not that I know of, and most of these children went to public schools where they were taught blatant lies against Christianity and faced far more traumatizing than anything a Christian child would face in our American public schools. Yet they were a light, a witness, and they stood strong. Their parents taught them at home what to believe and they stood firm, even firmer than many of us.
I'm not sure what I would do if homeschooling were illegal, but fear of the system is not the attitude I want to have. I don't believe in its power. I wouldn't voluntarily place my children in that atmosphere, but if the legal situation forced me to and I couldn't move or something, than I believe in God's power above the power of the school system. He is far stronger than any man-made institution. My children would be in His hands.
I'm not meaning this as an attack on what you said about going underground, Marlana. I don't know what I'd do, honestly. But I think we need to have a faith in God that is stronger than the power of a system to control people. God can overcome the system.
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Darcy
26, Montana
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 09 8:30 pm |
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I'd move. My kids are more important to me than where I live.
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John Hudlow
24, Irving, TX
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 09 8:35 pm |
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| Darcy wrote: | | I'd move. My kids are more important to me than where I live. |
As would I, if that were an option. I sort of assumed the OP was primarily asking us to decide between illegal homeschooling and public schooling (at least in part b).
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caps AKA Michael
19, Colorado
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 09 12:18 am |
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| Jennie wrote: | | I would start petitions, protest and write letters and editorials. |
The kind of nation that makes homeschooling illegal won't really listen to petitions, protests, letters, and editorials. Assuming such things are even allowed in such a country...
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 09 12:56 am |
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| Marlana wrote: | Okay, I understand you there.
But here's what I'm saying: public education is traumatizing. I took ONE class in high school (lol I'm the type that always wants to find out for myself). I was surprised I was alive at the end.
I had people who stalked me around. Boys and Girls had sex on the stairs. People were constantly fighting in the hallway. And I failed over half my tests (twice I miss filled in the dots on the scantron) and still had the highest grade in the class.
This is also what I meant: physical abuse develops emotional lies. "I am unwanted," for example.
Schooling also develops emotional lies. I grew up believing I was dumb because my kindergarten teacher (I was homeschooled after that year) said, "She can't read; she's got learning problems."
School also develops lies of the world. I have watched the little girls I used to babysit. They used to be content kids; now they just want more and more. They used to connect to family; now they are withdrawn. They used to want to go to church; now they won't go to AWANA unless their forced, and they won't memorize a verse.
School also develops moral lies. Everyday kids sit at their test next to peers who have two mommies or two daddies; they see girls that are now boys. They are taught, "Be tolerant of these people."
Now, you say, that's not everyone. True, some people aren't as harmed as others. But what would I really be demonstrating to my kids when at the end of the day I have to say, "Now you learned this and this at school. All this isn't true. You have to stand up for Christ" --- and yet I'm not willing to demonstrate what it means to stand up to the anti-Christ's of the system?
Anyway, that's why I would go underground. |
And I spend most of my life in public/private schooling. All the King's horses and all the King's men couldn't put me back together again. Only God could. And you can see a huge difference between my brother and I how we relate socially. I have a ton of baggage.
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